Отладочные символы

У меня символы сохраняются в папку (сейчас же нельзя , как раньше, скачать и все, надо чтоб оно с серверов майкрософта качало); посмотрел - там уже 3.5 гига этого добра, причем допустим для кернелбейс штук 20 pdb файлов, для других длл подобная картина. Почему так , кто знает? И есть ли в них смысл, мб поудалять?
Файлы разные, если что, т.е. чем-то они отличаются по идее, но не пойму, или мс так часто их обновляет или я что-то криво настроил.

 

Считай, почти на каждое обновление новые kernelbase/kernel32/ntdll. Обновляются часто, поэтому на каждую версию своя pdb'шка.
Можешь всё поудалять, при необходимости все актуальные символы подгрузятся снова.

 

Подниму тему. Вот каждое обновление начинаю дебажить, и ... минут на 30 можно куда-то уходить. Т.к. качает символы очень медленно.
Можно ли как-то все же выкачать их наперед ? Допустим, программа раз в неделю/месяц проверяет символы и ночью выкачивает для каждой длл.. Как-то же оно работает, качают же символы студия, Ида и т.д.

 

Вроде можно, но я сам не пробовал (на днях переводил https://xss.is/threads/60438/ - оттудова инфа):

 

под ту ось откуда запущено вроде

ну или можно поразбираться

Code (Text):

1.  
2. symchk [/r] [/q] [Input options] <Filename> [/s <SymbolPath>] [options]
3.  
4. <Filename>  Name of the file or directory that contains the executables
5.   to perform symbol checking on.
6.  
7. /s <SymbolPath> Semi-colon separated list of symbol paths.  Symbol server
8.   paths are allowed.  To retrieve symbols to a downstream
9.   store, use "SRV*<downstream store>*<symbol server>" for
10.   the symbol path.  See the debugger documentation for more
11.   details.
12.  
13. /r  Perform recursive operations on the <Filename> specified.  The
14.   wildcard * can be used in filenames.
15.  
16. /q  Turn off all output options by default. Only output turned on
17.   with a output flag (see below) will be printed
18.  
19. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
20.  
21. * Input options (choose only one):
22. /if <Filename>  Input is a file name.  Wildcards can be used to specify
23.   the file name. Default if nothing is specified.
24. /id <DumpFile>  Input is a dump file.
25. /ih <HotFix>  Input is a self-extracting Hotfix cab.
26. /ie <ExeName>  Input is an application name that is currently running.
27.   If the provided ExeName is '*', all currently running
28.   processes will be checked.
29. /im <ManifestList>  Input is a manifest previously created using the /om <file>
30.  
31.   option.
32. /ip <ProcessId>  Input is a process id. If the provided ProcessID is '*',
33.   all currently running processes will be checked.
34. /it <TextFileList>  Input is a list of files, one per line, inside of a text
35.   file.
36.  
37. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
38.  
39. * Action options (choose only one):
40. /av  For each binary, Verify symbols exist and match.  Default.
41.  
42. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
43.  
44. * Symbol checking options:
45. /cc  when symbol checking a hotfix cab, don't look for symbols inside the cab.
46.   By default, symchk will look for symbols in the cab as well as in the
47.   provided symbol path.
48. /cn  When symbol checking a running process, don't suspend that process.  User
49.   must ensure the process doesn't exit before symbol checking finishes.
50. /cs  Skip verifying that there is CodeView data. Symchk will verify that there
51.   IS codeview data by default.
52.  
53. - Symbol checking options for DBG information (choose one):
54. /ds  If image was built so that there is information that belongs in a DBG
55.   file, then this option verifies that the DBG information is stripped
56.   from the image and that the image points to a DBG file. Default.
57. /de  If image was built so that there is information that belongs in a DBG
58.   file, then this option verifies that the DBG information is STILL in the
59.   image and that the image does not point to a DBG file.
60. /dn  Verify that the image does not point to a DBG file and that DBG
61.   information is not in the image.
62.  
63. - Symbol checking options for PDB files:
64. /pa  Allow both public and private PDBs.  Default.
65. /pf  Verify that PDB files contain full source information.
66. /ps  Verify that PDB files are stripped and do not contain full source
67.   (private) information.
68. /pt  Verify that PDB files are stripped, but do have type information.  Some
69.   PDB files may be stripped but have type information added back in.
70.  
71. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
72.  
73. * Symbol checking exclude options:
74. /ea <Filename>  Don't perform symbol checking for the binaries listed in the
75.   file specified.  <Filename> is a text file that contains the
76.   name of each binary, one per line.
77. /ee <Filename>  Perform symbol checking and report files that pass or are
78.   ignored, but don't report errors for binaries listed in the
79.   file specified.  <Filename> is a text file that contains the
80.   name of each binary, one per line.
81.  
82. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
83.  
84. * Symbol path options:
85. /s[eprsu]  <SymbolPath>  Use <SymbolPath> as the search path.
86.  
87.   NOTE: If the '/s' option is not used, SymChk defaults to using the value
88.   in %_NT_SYMBOL_PATH%. If %_NT_SYMBOL_PATH% is not defined, then SymChk
89.   will default to:
90.   SRV*%SYSTEMROOT%\SYMBOLS*https://msdl.microsoft.com/download/symbols
91.  
92. * Modifiers (choose all that apply):
93.   e - check each path individually instead of checking all paths at once.
94.   p - force checking for private symbols.  Public symbols will be treated as
95.   not matching. (Implies the 'e' and 'u' modifiers.)
96.   r - Expand all non-symbol server elements in the specified path in order to d
97. o
98.   a deep search of the path. NOTE: This option may produce matches that wil
99. l
100.   not occur inside the debugger since it modifies the symbol path specified
101. .
102.   s - force checking for public (split) symbols. Private symbols will be
103.   treated as not matching. (Implies the 'e' and 'u' modifiers.)
104.   u - force updating of downstream stores. If the symbol path includes a
105.   downstream store, always re-check the server for the symbol. Only
106.   stores that are checked against will be updated.
107.   NOTE: The 's' and 'p' options are mutually exclusive. Only the last one
108.   present will be used.
109.  
110. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
111.  
112. * Output options (choose all that apply):
113. /ob  Give the full path for binaries in the output messages for symbol
114.   checking.
115. /oc[x[a]] <Directory>  Create a flat symbols tree in <Directory> which
116.   contains all matching symbols. If 'x' is also used, copy the matching
117.   binaries into <Directory> as well. If 'a' is also present, the binary
118.   will always be copied to the flat symbol tree even if symbol checking
119.   failed.
120. /od  List all details.  Same as /oe /op /oi
121. /oe  List individual errors.  Errors will be sent to the output by default.
122.  
123.   This option is only needed when using /q
124. /oi  List each file that is ignored.
125. /op  List each file that passes.
126. /os  Give the full path for symbols in the output messages for symbol
127.   checking.
128. /ot  Send totals to the output.  Totals are sent to the output by default.
129.   This option is only needed when using /q
130. /ov  Print version information for checked binaries as well.
131.  
132. - Extended output options:
133. /ol <File>  In addition to the messages sent to standard out, write a
134.   file that contains a comma separated list of all the
135.   binaries and their symbols that pass symbol checking.
136. /om <Manifest> Print out a manifest file for later use with the '/im' option.
137. /v  Turn on verbose output mode.
138. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
139.  
140. * Module filtering options when checking processes or dump files (choose one):
141.  /fm <Module>  Filter results to only include the named module.
142.  
143. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
144.  
145. * Misc options
146.  /port  Old usage to new usage quick porting table
147. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
148.  

 

M0rg0t,

> каждое обновление начинаю дебажить

Переходи на норм инструменты, автоматику. Ручная отладка уже мало пригодна.

 

Artem_N, спасибо, попробую;

мне так и надо.

в данном случае автоматика не вариант. Я пишу код в студии, потом в ней же и дебажу. Это удобнее чем любой отладчик или визор, т.к. видны локальные переменные и т.д., но долго качает символы (какой-то combase вообще минут 15).

 

Попробуй выставить в настройках Debug->Options->Debugging->Symbols->Load only specified modules. Возможно тебе будет их достаточно, чтобы отлаживаться. При желании можно дописать нужные или исключить ненужные. Прогружается все моментально при таких настройках.